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Mary6906
01-14-2009, 07:45 PM
As the original rebel girl songwriter,
Janis Ian should be reconsidered for the hipster canon


http://www.nashvillescene.com/2009-01-15/music/as-the-original-rebel-girl-songwriter-janis-ian-should-be-reconsidered-for-the-hipster-canon/

Published on January 14, 2009 at 10:57am

Ever have those moments when you realize Mom was right and you shouldn't have ever questioned her judgment in the first place?

Imagine it's the mid-'90s and you're trying to run for president of the Alternative Nation. You've got your Doc Martens, you only read zines that were stapled by hand and your listening habits consist primarily of Riot Grrrl records like Bikini Kill and lo-fi tape compilations from Shrimper Records. Your mom pops her head in your bedroom one day while you're rockin' out: "You should check out Janis Ian. I think you'd really like her."

"That's hippie ****, Mom," you reply.

Fast-forward a decade and change. You're working in an office crunching revenue numbers for imaginary property, having more or less abandoned the "us vs. them" mentality that fueled your punk-rock adolescence. You wander into your buddy's office and hear a really cool psychedelic pop song that hits all the right buttons in your jaded, music-cramped brain.

"Who are you listening to?" you ask.

"Janis Ian."

The sound of your hand slapping against your forehead reverberates through the fluorescent light-soaked halls of your staid corporate penitentiary like a fart in the Abbey Road echo chamber and you realize that Mom was right all along.

This is why I would like to recommend Janis Ian for canonization in the hipster folk pantheon. Sure, songs like "At Seventeen" will endure as long as there are smart girls who don't get invited to high school make-out parties, but this is an artist who should be synonymous with rebellious over-read youth the same way Sublime are the patron saints of dorm-room beer bashes. Ian's discography should be on the Introduction to Indie-Folk syllabus alongside peers like Nick Drake and Vashti Bunyan. If the Incredible String Band can experience a renewed critical vitality, so can Ian. Hell, as far as great albums go, she's got 'em beat by at least a 3-to-1 ratio.

Over her 40-plus years of cuttin' sides, Ian has amassed a huge number of hipster points but they just haven't been cashed in. Consider the following. Her first single, "Society's Child," pissed off a huge portion of America for openly discussing interracial romance. She was on one of the most adventurous labels of the '60s, Verve/Forecast Records, the same label as The Velvet Underground, The Mothers of Invention and—for those who like to let it all hang out—The Hombres. And while she may have had more popular success at the time, four decades later her albums of that era are just as engaging and avant-garde as those of her peers. And they're tough as **** to find on a good, undestroyed vinyl copy, which I'm pretty sure at least triples the cool credits.

Her mid-'70s output—where I'm pretty sure I got my "hippie ****" characterization from—doesn't follow in the same psyched-out baroque vein, veering more toward understated country-jazz territory that obviously isn't going to click with a cranky teenage Crass fan but hits home with a worse-for-the-wear almost-thirtysomething. If you've been digging the Bon Iver, Beach House or She and Him records from last year, you need to cart your ass to Grimey's or The Groove and pick up Stars, Between the Lines and Aftertones. To top it off, her new albums are self-released, totally DIY affairs—which is indie as **** and brings the whole thing full circle, hence the petition for canonization.

Janis Ian is the original rebel girl songwriter and should be recognized as such. If you don't believe me you should ask your mom. Mom always knows best.

hoops
01-14-2009, 08:25 PM
amen sister TESTIFY!
peace
hoops

Mary6906
01-14-2009, 08:36 PM
What the hey... how did I double post this? ... and now how do I get rid of one?? :confused:

But you got to admit... more of Janis is a good thing!

Bat
01-15-2009, 12:01 AM
Either you're seeing double, Mary, or the Erasing Elf has been working on your behalf. Great article, fun read! Cool as ****!:cool:

Eva
01-15-2009, 06:53 AM
I like it :cool:
But 'saint'...? Aren't you overdoing it? I remember Janis having a very big and very human appetite :D

Eva

Dee
01-15-2009, 08:09 AM
Thanks for posting Mary. Good article, but does **** mean **** or does it mean ****? So confusing.

Mary6906
01-15-2009, 01:22 PM
Go to the link my precious smoochie lips, go to the link...... or maybe you're not "mature" enough to read such language.... read at your own risk!! :D

Dee
01-15-2009, 01:24 PM
I prefer to think my own version of what it said, actually.

DaveM
01-15-2009, 01:45 PM
I do recall Janis once saying she would like to write a mass....

Can't see her wanting to be a saint though. The responsibilities are terrible, the wages are small to nonexistent, and you usually have to die in some horrible manner. BUT, you do get to perform miracles.

hoops
01-15-2009, 09:53 PM
Dave, i heard Janis say that too, she said infact all Jews want to write a Mass. I think it's the club cafe dvd. as far as a saint. they put you thru hell then no one believes it. Eva, Many many many saints led very human very "abundant" lives. In fact it might make you blush, what many saints have done in their lives.
peace
hoops

DaveM
01-15-2009, 10:14 PM
Francis of Assisi, possibly my favorite saint, spent much of his later life traveling long distances to meet with his "best friend" Clare, because, by his account, she baked a very special cake for him. Makes sense to me.

Francis, as he was dying, also said to his followers: "do not be too quick to canonize me--you know I am perfectly capable of fathering children". I've often wondered how they knew--and how they knew.

Before he got his revelation, Francis was, among other things, a mercenary. Fortunately, history does not record whether he ever killed anyone or not.

Eva
01-16-2009, 01:30 AM
Francis of Assisi, possibly my favorite saint, spent much of his later life traveling long distances to meet with his "best friend" Clare, because, by his account, she baked a very special cake for him. Makes sense to me.
Makes you wonder what was in the cake. And wether they smoked it too.

Eva

DaveM
01-16-2009, 01:39 PM
If I recall correctly, the name of the cake is well-known, as is the recipe. But I've always figured that Brother Francis was merely employing a euphemism. "I'm going on a two-week trip to eat cake with Clare" seems just a bit suspicious.

hoops
01-16-2009, 03:41 PM
yes good memory Dave, and St Clare often visited St francis, and stayed in her own space when she did. pretty good digs when they were such a poor community.they spent a lot of time together.
peace
hoops

DaveM
01-16-2009, 05:58 PM
Wouldn't it have been nice to have been an Italian-Latin speaking fly on the wall? Francis seems to have been a rather happy saint, as such things go. Hopefully both he and Clare had a good blow-out every now and then.

Even better, it would be nice if the Church recognized such things and stated lifting its restrictions on marriage--starting with its own priests and hopefully continuing on from there.

Sara
01-17-2009, 10:04 AM
What the hey... how did I double post this? ... Mary, I think Paularoid has a good explanation on another thread.
Check out post #6. (http://janisian.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7497)

Mary6906
01-17-2009, 01:04 PM
Mary, I think Paularoid has a good explanation on another thread.
Check out post #6. (http://janisian.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7497)

:mad: Oh, ha ha.... just wait you'll get yours woman!!! :)